| Paul
Walker, New York journalist received responses to an e-mail interview
with Rob Schmieder, Director of Communications, New England Conservatory
of Music on April 5, 2005.
Paul Walker: How and why is Tonic an important venue for
you? Are there any specific memories or experiences you have had there
that solidified it's value?
Rob Schmieder: "Avant garde, creative, and experimental music"
- that's Tonic's
motto, and it clearly expresses what they've offered. For anyone who's
interested in following new directions in music, it's really nice to
have a compass that helps point you in those directions. I think WNYC
has played that "compass" role for radio. Downtown
Music Gallery is a record store that steers curious ears in progressive
directions. These are just a few examples, and I'd lump Tonic in with
them. It's the kind of club you don't necessarily have to go to for
it to make a difference. Sure, I went there to hear Lukas
Ligeti when I knew nothing about him, but trusted Tonic not to waste
my time. Sure, I would walk by there late at night if I was in the neighborhood
and sit in the parking lot for a while listening to whatever was coming
through the wall. But I would also check out their listings every week
just to see who was playing there. If those same names turned up here
in Boston, I'd take them more seriously, just knowing that they had
the "Tonic seal of approval".
Paul Walker: In light of other famous New York City venues
being unable to stave off closure (Bottom Line, also CBGB's facing large
problems), what is it about Tonic as a venue that you feel elicited
such vast support? What makes Tonic so unique that it was able to overcome
what many clubs could not?
Rob Schmieder: Maybe it just comes back to a very consistent booking
policy - music lovers who followed the club closely believed it was
a benchmark of quality in the area of music it has staked out - and
that inspires loyalty. The "curatorship" approach that I believe
was in effect at Tonic
and that John Zorn has picked up at The
Stone is important. If Dave
Douglas books a month of trumpet players, as he did once at Tonic,
I certainly don't expect that they'll all sound like Dave Douglas, but
I do expect that they'll all be interesting enough to keep a great musician's
attention - so they ought to be good enough for me. That's a good enough
reason to try to keep a club going.
Paul Walker: Are there any suggestions or things you would
like to see be done with Tonic in the future?
Rob Schmieder: If Tonic
can keep going more or less as they are - that's great! It would also
be great to see long-term financial/business stability for their operation,
but there's no simple answer to how to make that work. It certainly
doesn't help to be at the mercy of fluctuating rents in a neighborhood
that is entering a high-stakes period of speculative real estate development,
for example, the high-rises currently being built on the Lower East
Side. If you go out to hear music in clubs a lot, you get used to hearing
good music in clubs you hate as well as in clubs you like. It's easier
for concert halls to be "likeable" - they generally have a
different business model, and there's not all that pressure to pump
bodies in and out of a liquor-selling machine to make the rent. After
all, how can the music ever come first when it's the booze sales that
cover costs? I guess maybe the secret to a place like Tonic is that
it feels more like a good concert hall and less like a bar. It's the
right size for the music being performed there, it feels like it's in
the right neighborhood, and they put the music first. In New York City,
I go to hear music at Lincoln
Center, Carnegie
Hall, B.B.
King's, Irving
Plaza, various churches, Fez,
and Tonic - wherever
the music I want to hear is being performed. Because B.B. King's has
some truly nasty security, I wouldn't be sad if they closed, but I would
hope someone else would pick up their interesting bookings. If Tonic
closed, I'd miss the bookings as well as a venue that treats its visitors
with respect. I don't expect 95% of Tonic's music to show up in a place
like Lincoln Center, maybe wait twenty or forty years for that, by which
time Tonic will have moved on to something else that is cutting edge. |