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Jørgensen and Justin Sanvicens from Xtreme Music received responses
to an e-mail interview with Billy Gould on August 5, 2005 and August
8, 2005.
Xtreme Music:
After Faith No More split up, most
of the guys went and joined or established other bands, while you established
the label Koolarrow. Were you tired of being in a band?
Billy Gould: Well, I was tired of being in "that" band. I
think anyone who's in a band probably understands that it is more than
just a group of guys making music, there are also very strong personalities
involved, and in the unique situation of Faith
No More, every person was an extraordinarily strong minded individual.
In our case, that meant that virtually everything we did required debate
of some sort or another; and if you put that into the context of seventeen
plus years, you can see how exhausting that can be as a work method.
But most people that follow the band know this already. Probably what
kept me from making music after the split was the fact that when we
began this group, we were a very tight unit. Even with Jim Martin, though
admittedly we did fight a lot, there was a "big picture" focus
that brought out the best in us collectively. As Mike Patton came into
the band as an outsider, a different kind of energy slowly came into
play. We made our most successful albums, and I like all of them, did
some amazing shows and maintained a fairly robust work schedule. And
somehow, we managed to create a fairly large creative space for ourselves,
where we could play whatever we wanted and still get away with it.
Still, at
the very end of the band's life, it was very sad to see that the "brotherhood"
part of the band was all but gone. That was the tragedy, because to
me Faith No More was
greater than the sum of it's parts and that was what made the music
work on a deeper level. It wasn't so much about musicianship as it was
about having a soul, and it certainly was what made it worth it for
me to go through all the touring and other bullshit during those years.
It was something real. So, to me, it wasn't just a matter of losing
one band and joining another, or swapping and interchanging musicians.
My mind doesn't work like that. If that were to be the only focus, I'd
rather not do it at all, because there's enough noise pollution out
there in the world without me adding to it. It had to mean something,
and who knew what the odds are that I'd find another chemistry like
that again? Would it happen next week or it would take twenty years?
Still, I loved music. There isn't a day that I can remember when I haven't
had music playing in my head, and I figured that until the time came
along to play in another group, something like Koolarrow
could enable me to continue working in that medium.
Xtreme Music: Ok, let's talk a little bit about
Koolarrow. The label focuses on foreign bands who tend to sing in their
own language. Why did you choose to go the hard way when shaping the
profile of the label?
Billy Gould: Well, it seemed to me that if I didn't do it, who would?
Secondly, I love a good struggle, and this road had "fight"
written all over it. Oh yeah, and, I saw enormous drive, soul, and potential
for growth in these bands and it energized me to be a part of that.
Xtreme Music: Koolarrow
is quite an interesting label as it crosses between so many genres.
Why don't you tell us a little bit about the different bands you got
signed up?
Billy Gould: All of our bands are very, very different from each other
but they all have similarities as well. Right now, the currently active
Koolarrow bands
are Flattbush,
Alexander Hacke,
Düreforsög,
Kultur Shock,
and Unjust. Anyone
making an even cursory listen to the MP3 samples on our website will
see that there are extreme differences between these bands. Kultur
Shock both dissects and updates Balkan influenced music, but that's
only part of the story. It is a band of refugees from different parts,
all talented musicians, trying to find their identity as outsiders in
an American city dominated by predominantly Anglo-American sensibilities;
trying to survive as outsiders in a music scene with often very cliquish
and two dimensional tastes. Flattbush,
though the music couldn't be any more different, consists of first generation
immigrants as well, but from the Philippines. Totally uncompromising
both sonically and in message, half sung in Tagalog, a living product
of the fusion of two cultures. Hard as fuck but not macho, music played
with one hundred and ten percent commitment and totally human, and probably
more than a little challenging to the average American listener. Tales
of real darkness, forged through experience, not the middle class "Freddy
Krueger-esque" nightmares of your generic metal band . Then we
come to Alexander
Hacke, who makes a departure from his main group Einstürzende
Neubauten, with a very cinematic piece compiled from snippets he
recorded on his Apple PowerBook, while travelling the world over a two
year period. And lastly, Unjust
are an American band who in spite of themselves managed to make themselves
vulnerable and grow from metalheads into songwriters.
What do these things have in common? I think all of them confront issues
of identity and confidence in a world driven by American media, independent
as well as commercial. All of them work within the ideological framework
that one does not define oneself by the products he buys or the music
he listens to. As a result of these viewpoints, every single one of
them understands and accepts that they need to work twice as hard to
get their message out there, because it runs totally counter to how
the music business works. All of them are willing to fight tooth and
nail rather than let this corrupt business get the best of them.
Xtreme Music: One of my favourite bands from Koolarrow's
music porfolio is Düreforsög. How did you first discover Düreforsög
and decide to sign them to Koolarrow Records? In addition, what qualities
do the band members share that makes Düreforsög a great music
discovery?
Billy Gould: Believe it or not, Düreforsög
opened up for Faith No More in, I believe, 1996. They were fifteen years
old at the time. I liked them but they didn't blow me away. Then they
sent Koolarrow
a CD for review, "Exploring Beauty", and I loved it. In fact,
I've signed a couple of bands that were submitted to me as demos, an
in general the quality of submissions has been pretty high. What I love
about Düreforsög
are several things: they have a cool "sound", they don't try
to be anything they're not, and they are a very independent band..
Xtreme
Music: For those who enjoy music from Koolarrow Records, what artists
and albums are some of your personal favourites?
Billy Gould: Releasing ANY artist on Koolarrow
requires a significant amount of energy and resources, so if I'm not
one-hundred percent into it, I won't do it. On the other hand, as most
of the releases are so different, I can't really pick a favourite.
Xtreme Music: I
get a kick out of discovering new bands with a unique sound. When you
hear a new band, which you might want to sign, what goes through your
head?
Billy Gould: When I hear something I like, it motivates me. The first
thing I do is establish contact to see where they're coming from and
if there's anything I can do to help. By the way, Koolarrow
is a small label with an even smaller operating budget; on top of that,
label work is office work and with a staff of two, I'm not exactly running
around trying to snatch up every cool band I can. But when I do get
a demo or see a band that resonates with me, I become compelled to get
involved.
Xtreme Music: Who would you say are your main influences
that have helped shape your musical direction?
Billy Gould: Magazine,
Roxy
Music, The Fall,
Slayer,
and The
Germs.
Xtreme Music: What bands are you listening to
now?
Billy Gould: Let me throw some names out there: B.U.G.
Mafia, Partizan, Dead
Meadow, Einstürzende
Neubauten, Flattbush,
Los Tucanes
De Tijuana, Alijah, and La
Plebe. I like real stuff with heart, or fake stuff with ass, very
rarely anything inbetween.
Xtreme Music: You've guest starred
on albums and such single projects as Black Diamond Brigade. Do you
consider this as vacation since you're so busy with the label?
Billy Gould: That's an interesting way to put it. Actually, yes, the
label has been much more work than I had originally imagined, and I
find that sometimes I have to make an effort to do what I probably do
best: write songs and play music. I really have to do something about
that. My goal is to release an album of my music within the year.
Xtreme Music: It seems like you've
established a relationship to Norway. In the Black Diamond Brigade you
played with members from Norwegian bands like Satyricon and Turbonegro.
Then you played bass on a track for another Norwegian band called Ralph
Myerz. Do you think this leads us back to the Faith No More years, and
the fact that you toured a lot in Norway? And is it true that you got
some Norwegian blood in you?
Billy Gould: I do have Norwegian blood, and we did tour a fair amount
in Norway, but what made my relationship strong with that country is
the fact that there are some very talented and cool people there. The
scene there is small but I could almost see myself living there and
playing all the time, in a lot of different situations. I'm just realizing
that it's been over a year since I was last there. Time to get back
there if you ask me!
Xtreme Music: It seems that it is
only Mike Patton and yourself that produce all sorts of music, while
the other Faith No More members do either metal or pop. Do you easily
get bored doing the same thing over and over again?
Billy Gould: I would say in Mike Patton's case, it's more of a situation
of being bored. To me, I prefer to stick with one thing and do it well,
as long as it was flexible enough in it's structure. As far as diversity
goes, I try not to be a music snob, though with the amount of shit out
there it's easier said than done, but I like to take chances and need
to find ways to keep music from feeling like a job.
Xtreme Music: Castro Sinatra was
in the wind for some time, but then it went all quiet. Will Castro Sinatra
be released, and what is next for you musically? I know you've played
on two tracks on the next Fear Factory album.
Billy Gould: Castro Sinatra was a project comprised of myself, Jon Hudson
and and Mike Bordin, all ex-Faith No More members. We ended up writing
quite a few tracks but at the end of the day, none of the singers I
checked out seemed to "get it". In retrospect, there was some
Faith No More baggage that hadn't been dealt with on my side that probably
needed to be worked out first. It's possible that in time I can come
back to this stuff, but in the meantime, I've let it go and written
an entirely new batch of music. Actually, I'm doing it with Mads Heldtberg,
the guitarist in Düreforsög.
And this time, I think something will come together. It's definitely
a bit less stiff than the Castro Sinatra stuff. It should be very powerful
live too. As far as the Fear
Factory stuff goes, we're old friends, and it was a pleasure being
able to play on a few tracks. If anything, I would love to be involved
in more collaborations. There is some talk about a project with Shane
Embury, the bassist from Napalm
Death, and Anders Jakobson, the drummer from Nasum.
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